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Council Watch · The Record

City Council — regular meeting, September 2, 2025

The city caught its own landfill-truck loan breaking state law — a proposed 78-month term against a 5-year cap — and sent it back for new terms. Council also adopted a new police pursuit policy, minus a Mississippi clause the city's insurance won't cover, and heard that West Helena has about 40 open water leaks. Green dots and timestamps play the city's own video right here on the page.

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Sketch: consulting engineer Ken Weiland at the podium walking the council through the water system's four major needs
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In 30 seconds
  • Council approved the King Biscuit Blues Festival permit 6-0 for Oct. 10-11, with a night-vision drone and state police help for security.
  • Council approved buying a landfill dump truck after catching that the proposed 78-month loan term breaks the state's 5-year (60-month) cap on municipal financing; the loan goes back for revised terms.
  • The city engineer and water superintendent reported about 40 open leaks in West Helena, a fire hydrant that ran dry during a recent fire, and a new backup well producing 1,200 gallons a minute against a 2,000-gallon target.
  • Council adopted a new police pursuit policy, leaving out the clause on cross-border pursuits into Mississippi (not covered by the city's insurance) until the Arkansas Municipal League supplies updated language.
  • The county's proposal to take over city police dispatch was not finished in time for this meeting and was pushed to the Sept. 16 meeting.

Recap

King Biscuit Blues Festival permit approved 6-0

Festival organizers asked council to approve the permit for the 38th King Biscuit Blues Festival, Oct. 10-11. Security lead West Horner said officers will use a drone with night vision to watch for crowds gathering and that the state police have been asked to help . Organizer Patrick Roberson said ticket prices were lowered to draw more local attendance and that the festival is partnering with Clarksdale on shared signage to bring more visitors to the Delta . The council approved the permit 6-0 .

Sanitation director's death; dispatch item delayed

Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly told council that sanitation director Roosevelt Collins had died since the last meeting and asked for prayers for his family . The proposal for the county to take over city police dispatch was not complete in time for this meeting and was moved to the Sept. 16 agenda .

Landfill dump truck: financing sent back over 5-year cap

Councilman Joe St. Columbia said the city paid $247,500 over the last 15 months to rent one dirt-cover truck for the landfill . Landfill director Reginald Wilson proposed buying an articulated dump truck with a monthly note of $6,787.82, financed over 78 months . City Attorney Andre Valley said state law caps municipal financing at five years, or 60 months, so the 78-month term has to be redone . Etherly said some of the landfill's equipment failures traced to vandalism or sabotage found in January 2023, not just wear . On a motion by Councilwoman Maxine Miller, seconded by Councilwoman Monica Davis, the council voted 6-0 to approve buying the truck, with the financing to be rewritten inside the five-year limit . Etherly said the city will auction off landfill equipment that no longer works; staff have been using their personal vehicles because there is no working truck at the site . He also said the landfill was awarded about $500,000 from the Delta Regional Authority to fix its leachate system, and the council voted 6-0 to authorize him to sign the award notices for the landfill and water grants .

Water system: ANRC loan still not closed; ~40 leaks in West Helena

Etherly said closing the ANRC loan remains the city's top water priority and there was no update to report yet; the item was pushed to the next meeting . City engineer Ken Weiland outlined four problem areas -- distribution, treatment, production and storage -- and said the water tanks have gone unpainted through his 24 years working for the city . Weiland said the new backup well is producing about 1,200 gallons a minute against a 2,000-gallon target, and running it harder has pulled the number down . Water superintendent Saeed Rose said he counted almost 40 open leaks in West Helena that morning, pushing the treatment plant to run about 20 hours a day, up from 12 to 14 hours . Rose said a DEQ consent order bars the city from running bypass pumps, and fixing the Midland Heights pump station will remove one bypass . Rose said fire trucks responding to a recent fire found no water at a hydrant, and about 20 hydrants citywide need full repair . He also warned that some residents will see unusually high water bills caused by incorrect meter readings, not real usage . Etherly said building the newest well used up the city's reserves, and this month the city starts rebuilding them .

Debt paydown update

Etherly reported the city cut its overdue big-truck-rental bill from $133,000 to $13,000, and its police body-camera bill from about $101,000 to about $70,000, with an Entergy payment plan still to be worked out. The captions gave the body-camera figures only as "101" and "70," without stating the unit; they are read here as thousands of dollars based on context .

New pursuit policy adopted, minus the Mississippi clause

Police Chief Quanderius Sanders said the old policy allows pursuit only for violent felonies and pushed to widen it, citing a new state law that makes fleeing in a vehicle a felony . He said the department made more than 450 traffic stops since he took office June 6, versus about 100 in the roughly five months before that, and that the crime rate is down 14% from a year earlier . City Attorney Andre Valley said the Arkansas Municipal League's insurance does not cover pursuits that cross into Mississippi, under paragraph J of the policy . He described two past pursuit lawsuits: one pursuit ended in a death near the Boys and Girls Club, and a second pursuit, for a nonviolent offense, seriously injured a person named Kim LaRosa in a wreck near the Grand Casino intersection . Etherly said the city should not take on new liability with no insurance coverage . A first motion by Councilwoman Maxine Miller to adopt the policy minus paragraph J failed for lack of a second . Miller then made the motion again, Councilwoman Monica Davis seconded it, and it was amended to note the city will get updated paragraph-J language from the Municipal League before amending the policy further . On the roll call that followed, Councilman Adrian Messina, Dr. Kyle Miller, St. Columbia and Davis all voted yes, with no no votes recorded in the transcript .

Metalbrook drainage bid approved; special-use permit near West Side School

Etherly said an unfinished 2011 city drainage obligation on West Street is behind chronic flooding in the Metalbrook neighborhood; the developer already dug a trench and installed a covered crossing, but the city's side of the ditch was never completed. He said the fix is above the city's normal spending limits -- a $5,000 spending limit and a $7,500 bidding limit -- so he asked council to approve bidding it out; council did . City Attorney Andre Valley presented a special-use permit for a center to be built across from West Side School; all but two neighbors signed a petition in support, and the council approved the permit after an unopposed hearing .

Transcript

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1:06
All present to the United States of to God for it stands one nation under God indivisible. Call.
1:28
Roll call Roll call (attendance) — present: Maxine Miller, Joe St. Columbia, Don Etherly. Not recorded present: Dr. Kyle Miller, Adrian Messina, Monica Davis (captions incomplete; attendance unverified).
1:39
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly We have a quorum established. Ladies and gentlemen, this is our regular meeting, 1st of September, September 2nd, 2025. Uh you have your agenda packets in front of you uh that were also emailed out to you this weekend. Uh the first item on the agenda is the approval of the minutes. Um if you would please take a look at those and when you're ready, we'll entertain a motion to adopt. This covers several meetings. So if you want to do them individually, that's fine. If you want to do them as a whole, that's fine. Has everyone had a chance to read through the minutes?
3:09
Unidentified I'm sorry, I couldn't
3:10
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° I was just asking had everyone had a chance to read through the minutes? If they had, I'd be happy to make a motion.
3:19
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly Okay. Be a motion by, I'm sorry. Is this to adopt the all the time? Motion to adopt all of the minutes, uh, by Mr. Kyle Miller. Is there a second?
3:30
Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1) Second.
3:33
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly Madam clerk, would you call the role, please?
3:36
City Clerk Sandi Ramsey Yes.
3:37
Unidentified Mute.
3:40
City Clerk Sandi Ramsey Dr. Miller.
3:41
City Clerk Sandi Ramsey Mr. Ba.
3:42
Councilman Adrian Messina (Ward 2) Yes.
3:44
Councilman Joe St. Columbia (Ward 2) I haven't had a chance to read them all. So,
3:47
City Clerk Sandi Ramsey okay. Five. Yes. One abstension.
3:50
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly Okay. Motion passes. Um I'm going to skip to the new business. We have some guests here this evening. Uh we have just Chalk Mitchell who's here and he may have some additional people here with him. They're going to present the permit request for the King Biscuit Blues Festival. You can come forward.
4:24
West Horner° Good evening. I'm here in the capacity of the director, not director but president of the Sunny Boy Blues Society. We've been putting on this festival in downtown Helena. This will, except for the two years with CO, this is year 38. This year we have struggled but we see the light. We've done some things in terms of trying to reorganize uh and try to get more local community involved. For those that have been to the biscuit before or travel internationally, they know that Helena is known worldwide for his blues and especially the biscuit, the King biscuit. We had a, this year, I'll let Patrick talk a little bit about it. We have a tremendous impact on the delta with this festival. We have visitors from all over Europe. We Japan, Australia. This is an international thing. And the people love coming to Helena. But like most Delta towns, we're struggling. I'd like for us to look better, but you know, time will tell. We have an opportunity to keep something alive in Helena. That's a positive thing. We have tailored the festival down to, we are at two days I think, in one main stage. So we've reduced our footprint. A number of issues have come up with things that are happening around this country. And one of the major things that we're concerned about is security. And I'll let Wes talk more about that because he's been spearheading that. And we want people to come here. We want them to feel it's safe. But our neighbor over in Clarksdale, they're more excited about the biscuit than we are because although they're in the Delta, somehow they have more hotels, more places to stay until, like I said, Patrick will say more about that in terms of they want to be a part and they want to sandwich us. I've even suggested that they provide transportation for a lot of the people from the hotels in Clarksdale where they won't have to drive. Uh naturally with the state police, in, I think when I came to this town and I was city attorney, there was a tremendous number of DWIs, but we're going to do something to try to be more proactive about trying to provide some type of alternate transportation or even a situation where let people stay until they're safe to drive. That's some of the things we're planning to do. This festival, uh, some of the still top talent. I think um it's going to be good. It's going to be one of the better festivals. Somebody talked about, you know, how late were we going? To be honest with you, festivals don't go very late anyway because even in big cities like Memphis, the young people, if given a chance, will mess up anything. They don't have anything to do. So, they fight each other. And that's nationwide. That's, that in Helena, in the past, we really haven't had an incident at the festival. Major problem we have is people that want to drive, but according to the state police, they shouldn't be driving. And I think people need to be safe. We don't want them to go out and injure somebody or injure themselves because they had such a great time at the biscuits. I'm going to turn it over. I guess I'll start with Wes. Let's go to security. Thank you, Judge. Thank y'all for listening to us and being our host tonight. It's a pleasure to be here. It's a pleasure to work and volunteer for King Biscuit Blues Festival. I've been doing that for a long time and uh love it. Uh love the music, love what it does for our community and love the publicity we get off of it and the lift from even the citizens. A lot of citizens don't like blues music, but they do like to hear good things about their town, and that's kind of what we're after. Security is always is important, and this year, I think it's really important because you hear on the news about all events everywhere with problems, and we are working diligently not to have that. I wasn't a part of the decision that brought the drone into the mix, but we have a drone and that comes and he's uh above us. He stays launched all the time, especially at night. And um he checks not necessarily in front of the stage, but he will make a pass or two there, but all in the outline areas where the parked cars are, where the traffic, the street lights aren't quite as bright, where all the things are, he's got night vision in his drone. And if he sees a group of people congregating, he gets on the radio and says, 'We've got congregation,' and pinpoints the location, and then somebody goes and checks out what's going on there so that we don't have a cell that makes a plan and executes it close to there. And last year he was able to uh break up. We had no issue last year. I mean zero. But he, and we think that's pretty much because of the drone. We've already had a meeting with the sheriff here. We've had a meeting with the city police. We don't ask the city police to come on to the impact area that we're actually in because we've got private security for that. And if we have a problem, we'll get the city police to come in and deal with the arrest and all the stuff that has to happen. Luckily, that won't happen. But we have the, um, our footprint has private security. The outline area is city police. The even outline more outlined area is the Phillips County Sheriff's Office. And then we're, this year, just as an abundance of caution, we're going to invite the state police to come in and look. Now, I'm no security expert, but I've got a really good friend. His name is Andrew Miles. Andrew was a captain in the Little Rock, North Little Rock uh Police Department and he did security for several main events in Little Rock. He's dealt with 100,000 people at a time and he's going to look at our plan, make sure that we're doing everything right. He's consulting with us and uh he's giving us the thumbs up or the thumbs down or that's weak, this is strong. But we're committed to uh a lot, a large portion of our budgets going to security and uh we're committed to having a safe and fun festival and that's uh that's basically where, oh and the hours, like the judge was saying we used to go to 11. We're going to 10 and if we can make it to 9:30 we'll stop at 9:30. And that's kind of the artist who gets to do that. But we're on it.
12:58
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly° Patrick.
13:00
Patrick Roberson (mayoral candidate)° Yes.
13:01
Patrick Roberson (mayoral candidate)° Well, we're excited about this year. Um and well, before I start, let me just say thank you guys all for the prayers and for thinking of me and all that. I could really feel that. So, thank you guys for all checking in on me. Um, but with the, when concerning the Blues Fest, we almost didn't have it. And then I was approached by um Colleen from Clarkdale and then several other people from Clarkdale who said, 'No, no, y'all can't not have a festival because we're both in it. I mean, we get tourism from it. You guys get tourism from it.' And it's kind of a win-win. So, we'll help you put on the festival. We'll help do what we need to make sure this happens. So, the good thing about almost reaching rock bottom um in a way on some of this is that it's going to form another partnership, you know, that we've never had with Clarkdale. We've talked about it, but we never really put anything together. It's going to expand not only in the Blues Fest, but tourism in general, you know, we're going to work together and put out signage together and just bring more people to the Delta, not just to Clarkdale, not just to Hela West Hela, but we're going to work together as a team. So, that's going to be great. Um, coming up, something else we're also doing with the Blues Festival is we've got, we've lowered ticket prices quite a bit because there's, to me there's been this kind of disconnect. Uh we don't have, we have people from all over the world but we don't have our backyard, you know, we don't have our residents, we don't have that, so we've dropped ticket prices quite a bit to try to include the whole city, you know, that's who we, we're glad to have the people from out of town, yeah, but we really want people from here to enjoy it as well. So what you guys have in front of you is kind of almost probably the standard permit um that we've done and we may have scaled it down some, but we tried to check all the boxes um there. So, if there's any questions, nobody got any questions or anything on it.
15:16
Councilman Joe St. Columbia (Ward 2) Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
15:22
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly° Yes, sir.
15:23
Councilman Joe St. Columbia (Ward 2) Make a motion. This is Helena City Council. Uh approve the 38th King Biscuit Blues Festival for October the 10th and the 11th is proposed by the Sunny Boy Blues Society. I'll make that motion.
15:44
Councilman Adrian Messina (Ward 2) Second.
15:46
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly And so there's a motion by St. Columbia to approve uh the 38th annual King Biscuit Blues Festival event permit. There's a second from whom I heard more than from Mr. Messina. Um is there any discussion?
16:03
Roll call Roll-call vote — Joe St. Columbia: yes; Dr. Kyle Miller: yes; Adrian Messina: yes; Don Etherly: yes; Maxine Miller: yes.
16:15
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly Permit, your event permit is uh approved and that is October 10th through 11th. For all those who are listening, we encourage everyone to come out and support.
16:24
Unidentified Thank you guys so much.
16:25
Unidentified Thank you.
16:28
Unidentified We hope to see you there.
16:29
Unidentified Yes, sir.
16:30
Unidentified It's going to be a good time.
16:31
Unidentified Yes, sir.
16:32
Unidentified Thank you.
16:35
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly Okay. Well, before I move on on the agenda, I please forgive me. I meant to do this and Mr. Robinson reminded me um at this time since our last meeting we lost our sanitation director Mr. Roosevelt Collins and so I want to uh ask everyone to send their thoughts and prayers out to the family of Mr. Collins. His arrangements or his home going service is going to be this weekend. But I don't have the time and date. I mean, I'm sorry, the time and location. Maybe somebody who likes me out there text it to me while we're sitting here. Although I don't have many friends since I've been in this chair. Uh when we get it, I'll pass it on to the uh to the public. But uh please certainly uh keep Mr. Collins and his family and your thoughts and prayers. Thank you. Um, under old business, the first item on the agenda is the proposal for the county to take over the police dispatch. And I in your email, I told you we may not get it until shortly before the meeting because I didn't have it at the time that I sent out the agenda. Well, I spoke to the county attorney today and it is not yet complete. And so, we're going to have to move this to our next meeting agenda, which is going to be September the 16th. And so look for that item to be on the agenda for September the 16th. And it is again pending the agreement. The county is drafting that agreement and putting in all the ins and outs that they want. We'll, once we get it, I'll have the city attorney take a look at it and we'll get it on the agenda so you guys can have it hopefully by September 16th. Uh next item on the agenda is the landfill proposal for equipment purchase and that's the articulated truck. We have uh our landfield director here, Mr. Regginal Wilson. I still call him Chief Wilson. Chief Wilson, you can come forward and make your presentation.
18:19
Reginald Wilson - landfill director° Well, it's kind of self-explanatory. Everybody has my packet with them. And what we've been doing is renting out equipment to haul dirt. And according to ADQ regular requirements that we are to cover the trash with 6 in of cover dirt every day. So, you've seen, I'm not going to say the amount of money that we spend leasing this out. And I have checked with several truck agencies on this articulating truck and I came up with this truck through Lyft. And with your approval tonight, this won't be any money coming from the general fund. The landfill will be paying totally for this truck. Yes, sir.
19:30
Unidentified Uh you've been, you've paid uh I noticed here
19:34
Unidentified Yes.
19:35
Unidentified in your proposal
19:37
Councilman Joe St. Columbia (Ward 2) $247,500 in the last 15 months. Uh
19:45
Unidentified that was
19:46
Unidentified or during that 15 month period that was in 23.
19:49
Unidentified Yeah. 23 and 24.
19:51
Unidentified Yes sir.
19:52
Unidentified Uh you paid that amount of money. Yes, sir.
19:56
Unidentified To on rental.
19:58
Unidentified On rental
20:00
Unidentified Yes, sir.
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20:04
Unidentified Huh?
20:06
Reginald Wilson - landfill director° What, what is this monthly note going to cost you uh on this truck that I am trying to get? The monthly note is I think it's like $6,700. And you can see on that note, yeah, the monthly note will be $6,787.82.
20:32
Unidentified So, you going to be paying $6,000?
20:36
Unidentified Yes.
20:39
Unidentified Yes, sir.
20:40
Unidentified And how long will it take to pay it out? I
20:44
Unidentified think that's over 78 months.
20:50
Unidentified How many months? 78.
20:53
Unidentified And you're going to take that out of your income from the
20:56
Unidentified from the landfill?
20:58
Unidentified Yes.
21:01
Unidentified general funds?
21:02
Unidentified Any money from the city?
21:04
Unidentified No.
21:05
Unidentified No, sir.
21:07
Unidentified Okay. 100% toll coming from
21:11
Unidentified Yes.
21:13
Unidentified Yes, sir.
21:14
Unidentified Uh Mr. Wood, who is going to be these operators? uh one of the operators down at the landfield.
21:24
Unidentified Okay.
21:25
Unidentified Okay. Who is that?
21:27
Unidentified Uh either Bruce Simpson. I may even operate it myself.
21:31
Unidentified That's fine. Are they, are they going to be training the
21:34
Unidentified Yes, sir.
21:35
Unidentified Okay.
21:36
Unidentified Okay. Yes, sir. Can I ask
21:38
Unidentified training and we service all of our equipment and there are daily service sheets they have to fill out
21:47
Unidentified because all of our service records for the equipment down there are checked by ADQ also.
21:54
Unidentified Yes, sir.
21:55
Unidentified So all of our stuff are checked once every day.
22:00
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° You know, we've had issues with like equipment and Yes.
22:01
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° gets torn up prematurely.
22:04
Unidentified Yes.
22:09
Unidentified That's, you're so correct. But that never happened. That would never happen again. Yes, sir.
22:16
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° I say at the landfield, but
22:18
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° you know, I'm a I'm a stickler
22:20
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° on training folks, right? And servicing your equipment.
22:25
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
22:28
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° What kind of warranty do we have with this truck? And
22:31
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° is and the maintenance? It's uh I think it's
22:35
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° said
22:36
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° it's a sixyear uh bumper-to-bumper warranty on this truck.
22:42
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° 6 years.
22:43
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
22:46
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° You got it financing at uh 7.58 or 7.56%.
22:53
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
22:54
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° That who you financing it?
22:56
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
22:57
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Uh you going to put down 11,500? We're not going with that option. We're going with option two.
23:06
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Which option is that now? I'm looking at
23:08
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° that's the option right under option one.
23:10
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Okay.
23:11
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° It's option two.
23:12
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Okay. I I see it, sir.
23:15
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Okay. M.
23:22
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes.
23:27
City Attorney Andre Valley Financing information. I don't unless if I'm correct and city attorney can let me know if I'm correct or not but I don't think we can finance it for 7 8 months. I think it has to be can't be no more than f at five at the most 60 months.
23:43
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Okay.
23:46
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° okay information. Okay. You mean that's a state law on that?
23:52
City Attorney Andre Valley° Yes.
23:54
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Okay.
24:00
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° State law said we can't finance it more than five years.
24:03
Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes. Yeah. You going to have
24:09
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° that would be a question for the city attorney. That's right.
24:13
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Okay.
24:14
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) He says that's good. If if I can throw my two cents in on this proposal. Um Mr. Miller, you mentioned equipment, I would remind everyone that what we learned in January of 23 is that some of the landfill equipment, there's been a lot of talk about landfield equipment being not working. It was actually vandalized andor destroyed.
24:36
Unidentified Yes. Right.
24:37
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Um the the the truck that they're trying to purchase because they have to cover up the dirt. I'm giving you the lelay lelay lelay version of this cuz cuz they showed it to me. the dirt that I mean the trash that they have to to cover up at the end of each day. We're renting dump trucks to do that. The dump trucks don't carry nearly as much as this truck, which is why it's so expensive. So, they're having to do this regardless. It has to be done to keep the landfill open. And they have to do it at the close of every day, but they can't even do it efficiently. And we're still paying for it. So, it's kind of like the bypass pump, uh, Mr. St. Columbia, where we keep renting these bypass pumps and we we paid for them long ago. the the landfill has bought a truck, but we haven't bought the truck. We just paid it to somebody else. Yeah.
25:20
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° And so it's it's really just a common sense proposal. They'll get a piece of equipment that's absolutely tailored to what they need to do and will help them do it more efficiently and we'll own it at the end of it. So,
25:32
Unidentified uh, Mayor, would you also add the functionality of this equipment compared to what's been rented?
25:40
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Well, I mean, you have to see it. I'm not a I'm not an equipment guy.
25:44
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Well,
25:45
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° but when you stand the landfill equipment up next to regular equipment, they don't look the same. I mean, the the the size of the equipment is just bigger.
25:53
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° And so, my my eyes tell me there's a difference between the truck that I see rolling out there. And that's why they can't get it done. Just carries a little bit of dirt and this one carries a whole lot of dirt.
26:01
Unidentified Right.
26:02
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° And so, and they have to cover it up. And so, it's a requirement.
26:05
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° I would remind you that one of the the hidden gems that we have is our landfill. That's right.
26:11
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° And although it has not made a whole lot of money to date, at some point we have such vast amount of land out there. At some point, everybody else is going to be closed
26:22
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) and people will have to come to us. And one of the issues that they have and let's say congratulations, they they just got a half million dollar lee grant uh last month awarded from DRA. So, they're going to get their lie system fixed. Uh they're also applying right now for a grant to fix the road. One of the reasons they tell me that people don't like to come here is because the road is awful. Once they get the road fixed, it becomes more attractive to people to come here and use our landfill. So, it's well worth us putting the investment into our landfill. It won't pay us immediately, but down the road uh it can become something that uh that makes us a lot of money and we I think we have the right team of people to get it done now. I I believe that. So,
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° yeah. Your landfill is 356 acres. is 356 acres. You got 28 acres that are already permitted to dump on. We are just using probably 33 acres of that right now. So, it's got room to expand like uh the mayor said that we have a grant to redo all of the Liche pumps out there. And this is just a vital piece of equipment that we must have and we are not asking the uh city. We realize and understand the situation that the city is in and we just need this piece of equipment to get better. Well, I'm absolutely um impressed first of all because whenever we ask you a question about management, you have the answer. That's first of all. Yes.
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Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1)° And the fact that you understand the training that needs to happen.
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Unidentified Yes.
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Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1)° So, I'm totally sold and know that you can do it. My question is, so at this point, does he just go back and talk to the finance company about the months? What happens at this point?
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Yes, he'll have to get a new proposal. Let me not step on the city attorney's toes, Mr. Mr.
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City Attorney Andre Valley Oh, yes. He'd have to get a new proposal. I I point to the mayor. Technically, the mayor has exclusive right to enter all contracts. Uh, so between uh Mr. Wilson and the mayor, they would have had to get a new proposal. Uh the thing that that I want to emphasize as well, we've come from equipment being sabotaged not having any move through all this rental property, rental equipment, and this is the logical step to take to to go forward. Uh and I think you would have the cost savings and furthermore, part of the durability is you don't have the proper equipment to deal with dealing with landfield. You have to have massive equipment and it's currently not out there, right? And so uh just a couple other points for the public lie when they talk about liche any water that touches trash is considered lie and has to be removed from the landfill. And so the grant that Mr. Etherly was talking about mayor eth was talking about that the chief secured for 520,000 is to create a system where is drained and we won't be cited for that anymore. And that's an awesome job
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Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1)° Okay. Can't they uh can't the city council and I guess this is a question for you or or the city attorney city council can go go ahead and approve the purchase of the vehicle.
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City Attorney Andre Valley° That's correct. And then they can come back with the financing later.
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Unidentified Yes.
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Unidentified Okay.
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Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1) I'd like to make a motion for us to do that then.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Okay. So motion by Miss Maxine Miller to approve the purchase of the articulated dump truck. Second by Miss Davis. Are there any other questions, comments?
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Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Question about the
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Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° the additional warranty uh that you're purchasing.
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City Attorney Andre Valley° You're purchasing a six-year warranty, extended warranty.
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
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City Attorney Andre Valley° There's a three-year that comes with it,
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Unidentified right?
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° hydraulic warranty.
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
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Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Cuz I know you mentioned earlier warranty bumper to bumper.
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
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Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Well, like car.
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Well, it's the engine and the hydraulics. That's all that's on the truck. The engine and the hydraulics and and electrical parts. So, all of that is under warranty for six years.
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City Attorney Andre Valley° Okay. You are purchasing an additional six-year warranty I see on
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes, sir.
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City Attorney Andre Valley° contract here.
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Yes.
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Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° Okay, that's my question.
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Unidentified Yes.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Question answered. Any additional questions?
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Madam clerk, would you call the role, please?
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Roll call Roll-call vote — Adrian Messina: yes; Joe St. Columbia: yes; Monica Davis: yes; Maxine Miller: yes.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Okay. Uh Chief, you would stay there. I want to pass some pictures around.
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Police Chief Quanderius Sanders° Okay.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) What what I'm handing to you now are pictures that have been taken out at the landfill by Chief Wilson. And what you're going to see in these pictures, I have more. I'm just trying to make it kind of simple. What you have are pieces of equipment that are no longer operational and you can see grass growing up around them. And uh I just made the suggestion. I asked the question, is any of this stuff fixable? We had one compactor that's been fixed multiple times, but they can't keep it running. We have a brand new compactor. I won't say brand. We have a new compactor out at the landfield. And so they have these other pieces of equipment that have been out of use and they've had people express interest in purchasing them. So I said, "Well, why don't we just bid it all out?" And they believe they can get a a pretty nice sum of return on this. And so what I'm going to ask the council to do is approve them uh bidding out the equipment and let's sell it and get what we can get for it. And on the back side of that, this is not in front of you yet. I want to tell you what my mindset is at this point. Uh some of this can be used to go towards the note, but they also need a truck at the landfill. U right now they're pickup truck,
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° a pickup truck. Right now they're using their personal vehicles at the truck and I went out there and I'm telling you I got a pickup truck. I would never drive it through the landfill ever.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° I went in my I was in court and I left court and went out to landfill and by the time I left I had to go home and completely changed. I was covered in in dirt. And so what I'm saying is is they need a truck and not they don't need to use their personal equipment because it's it's it's too taxing. I mean it's it's an awful place to use your personal equipment. So after we get this equipment sold, I'm going to ask you to to at least purchase one truck for use the landfill.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) And so uh but the the item on the agenda for now is for you to approve if you so choose them bidding out the equipment for sale.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° And if that that's agreeable, do you have any questions? It makes sense. It does.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Then uh is there a motion to approve bids going out on this equipment?
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Motion by Miss Davis to approve landfill bidding out this equipment. Is there a second?
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Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1) Second.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Second by Miss Maxine Miller. Is there any discussion? Madam clerk, would you call the role?
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City Clerk Sandi Ramsey° What's a motion?
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° To approve the bids going out.
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City Clerk Sandi Ramsey° Yes.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Bid listing equipment and taking bids for sale.
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City Clerk Sandi Ramsey° Yes. Oh, yes ma'am.
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Roll call Roll-call vote — Adrian Messina: yes; Don Etherly: yes; Maxine Miller: yes.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) And I think that's all we have for the land. Thank you.
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Reginald Wilson - Landfill Director° Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Thank you. [Music] I think Mr. V is writing on my agenda as we go through this.
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Unidentified Oh, no. No. Here he is. Here he is. Here. Sure.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Police chief's not here. Is that
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) the police chief? I don't see him here. We can I will see if he if he comes. If he doesn't, I sent I sent a copy of the pursuit policy. Uh but we can we can come back to that. There's still some old business old business on the uh agenda. So, I'm going to go back up to uh item number three under old business, which is resolution for that's east Arkansas planning and development regarding previously awarded grant to landfill. Since we're talking about the landfield, the landfill got that $500,000 grant to do the leech system. And I got a call from Sarah Stalker with East Arkansas Planning and Development. They need I had to send them the court documents from the case uh regarding Mayor Pro Tim. But what they would like or what we're going to do is ask you to in a motion form. Someone has to sign off on all the award notices and they need me to do that, but they want to be sure that everything is approved. And then going forward, there's also the water grants and they'll need people they'll need me to sign off on those documents. And so, uh, the city attorney, I said I was going to do a resolution, but I wanted to speak to her and I didn't get a chance to do that until today to make sure I knew what exactly what she wanted. The city attorney will prepare a resolution after the meeting is over. So, we'll have something in writing, but what we need is a motion for me to sign off on the award notices and any other documentation that's needed to sign off on to receive those grants. Miss,
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) I'd like to make that motion. Motion by Miss Maxine Miller, second by Miss Monica Davis. Any additional question? Madam clerk, would you call the role?
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Roll call Roll-call vote — Don Etherly: yes; Maxine Miller: yes; Monica Davis: yes; Dr. Kyle Miller: yes; Adrian Messina: yes; Joe St. Columbia: yes.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Okay. Item four on your agenda for old business is a water department update. And Mr. Rose is here. And Mr. Rose, I'll tell you what I was thinking because we didn't get I was I was in court all day. I didn't get a chance to speak to you. What I was thinking is first of all, the number one item that we have uh as it relates to water uh and we we talked about this a couple weeks ago when Mr. Devils was here is closing on that ANRC loan. And so what I wanted to do is try to provide you an update on where we are in terms of closing. The city attorney did send out an email. Uh we did not get a response during the course of the day. So to that portion of it, unless uh Mr. Rose has an update, uh we'll we'll pass that to the next meeting when we do have
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent° Yeah, let's pass that to I can have an accurate update.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Yes, sir. Then you Mr. Rose, you have the floor.
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent Okay. Um well, first before I got into um water department business, um I wanted to share that um Mr. Roosevelt Collins funeral services will be held on Saturday at 2:00 at the Twin City Church of Christ.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Thank you, Mr. Thank you.
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent Once again, that's 2 o'clock on Saturday at Twin City Church of Christ. back to
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent water department update. Um, well, first thing I want to say, um, I know I wasn't able to be here at the last city council meeting when John Edwards spoke. Uh, but I understand the importance of an update for the water department every city council meeting and it's enough going on to give you guys a very detailed update each meeting. So, what I want to focus on this evening um was the CAOs um the water I mean the ADHD Arkansas Department of Health CEO and where we're at on the EQ CAO. All right. And so with the
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent° um the consent
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent° consent administrator consent.
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent° Yes sir. Yes sir. And so we have two on both sides.
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Unidentified Yes.
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent So I have my pull up my notes. Okay. So, um I want this to start with the um health department CEO, which is on our water side. Um we're in pretty good standings from what I'm understanding and my feedback from the health department that I've had directly. Um and Mr. Ken is here as well, but um just to speak on the updates, our quarterly report um that they've been asking for has been submitted and feedback has been pretty good on that. And so I'll be preparing another quarterly report um pretty much within a month or so that's going to kind of pretty much cover the same things. Um not too much has changed within the last couple of months, but um but we got that done. So in terms of just them knowing what's happening with the system, um where we're at on licensing, um what is going on operational, they have an understanding of what we're doing there. Okay. So that was one of the big um acts that we needed to fulfill on the on the CEO that wasn't u wasn't complete but it is now. And for this the second part um I don't know Miss Ken you want to share what the uh basically kind of the update on your your side of it with the long range plan
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Saeed Rose - Water Superintendent° on the gentleman latest how y'all receive it.
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Ken Weiland - City Engineer° All right. All right,
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Ken Weiland - City Engineer° good.
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Ken Weiland - City Engineer Uh, on the consent order, the actual response to it, I've been working with Attorney Valley also. Uh, we've sent in the long range plan initially. The health department came back with some a couple minor comments on that. Uh, and we responded to that. and the second comments that they have sent really basically they want to combine the responses I've made into one document. So they have one document over there. This is a pretty big issue with them. It's you know it's not like a normal set of plans that they review and give you comments on. You know it covers all the different aspects of what's everybody's calling the long range plan. The long range plan was really our idea, the city's response to what are you going to do to fix this thing and and over what time? And so we came up with the the four and y'all y'all familiar we came up with the four major items, distribution, treatment, production, and storage. Uh those items will be going into effect as far as the design initial surveys as I've told y'all before when we close that first loan. Uh because that allows the funding to be available for me and my resources to begin the the work to identify the specific projects under that long range plan. So what they what they're looking at where I am now probably about 60 65% complete the responses in the long range plant you one was one tenth and another was you know first person the other was third person so I'm I'm having to try to blend them into one document where it makes sense uh and I'm in contact with the health department too. So, as far as the response to the consent order, their comments, we're in good shape there. Of course, the whole purpose of all of this, they want to see that the city is taking positive action to try to minimize and reduce the occurrences of water outages on both sides. We're not just talking about West Hler. the the long range plan is is Hola and West Sola. Now we're and he's I'm sure Mr. Rose is going to mention what we're doing now actively in West Solola. U but the you know the the the consent order what we're doing now is moving forward and with the money the the forgiven loan and the loans that's going to allow us to begin addressing all those issues. Everybody everybody knows Mr. Edwards mentioned about the bowels and the treatment plants. We all know that there's lots of problems in the treatment plants and we're going to have to to address all of them. We'll address them by priority and as funding allows. Uh same thing goes for distribution. Same thing goes the tanks need to be all the tanks need to be painted. Uh, I've been here 24 years now and I don't I don't remember any tank being painted with the exception of what we did what I did with Ken Fertezy on the West Settlement tanks. Um, new well, uh, you know, we've we've got we've got the first well in, but the the long range plan includes the second well that actually will act as a backup so that you don't have to rely on those old failing wells as your backup. So that in general is what is being done um and will be done on a more accelerated basis once I guess things stabilized here and ANRC and the attorneys are able to close that first loan. Does that cover what y'all me question?
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Unidentified Yes. The new well, the new well that we put in and got it up and running and operational. Is it uh giving us the amount of water that we anticipated when we put that well in pumping
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Unidentified like it should?
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Engineer Kenneth Weiland It's it's producing 1,200 gallons a minute. We, you know, we wanted 2,000 and remember all the conversation the strata didn't
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Engineer Kenneth Weiland uh 1,200 but it has it has come down a little bit because they're having to run the well and and Mr. Rose probably needs to address this too that we're having to run the well a lot. We're still trying to get all these leaks fixed, which you know, again, all the components of the DRA grant and the ANRC grant are going to be are going to aim toward trying to to get the loss ratio down so that that well doesn't have to run as much. What's probably happened is probably pull the Oxford down because it is having to run. It's summertime and your usage is up and so I think the last report I had was it was producing about a thousand going to be a little over a thousand gallons a minute which you would anticipate that this running almost 24 hours a day it needs time to rest so the aquifer can kind of recharge.
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Unidentified Is the water table is the water table down in this area?
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Engineer Kenneth Weiland° Well, you know a lot of people
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Unidentified what it used to be
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Engineer Kenneth Weiland a lot of people get confused. They think that the the water table that everybody says is down. Uh you know the the all the that's the shallow water. That's shallow water. We're not in shallow water. We're we're we're well we're a lot of clay layers below that. We're in the Sparta aquifer.
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Engineer Kenneth Weiland Now the Sparta has you know now I'm not I'm not a expert on the on the Sparta aquifer but it has come down some. And one of the things that's been a big issue for about the last 25 or 30 years was as the shallow water began being depleted because of the massive rice farming operation in Arkansas. Mississippi has a similar issue with catfish farms. You know, as that shallow as that shallow water goes down, a lot of people, I think, were starting to punch down into the Sparta aquifer and they were drawing that up for rice. And so, you know, there core of engineers and everybody got in and got real active on that uh to try to be careful not to overpump that that sparta aquifer. Now, again, that's that's just that's just me. I'm not an expert in that. I'm not studied in that, but I can tell you that goes back to when I've previous job that I had. We were pretty involved with particularly in Mississippi with the depletion of ox. So when you when you hear that the aquifer is coming down, a lot of times people say that, but what they're referring to is the shallow water, which is what your agriculture uses. Uh not to me, not not that there's not some issues with where we are for the well down deep when we're we're at 800 ft. Um but it's it's not coming down. Now, what I'm referring to on the well is as you as you pump a well, it kind of looks like a a champagne glass or martini glass. It pulls that that water down and as you keep pumping, it will pull that water down a little bit more. Now, as it pulls that that level around that well down, it has further to pull it up and that will make it lose a little ground as far as what it's producing because it's pumping it further up from further down. And I think this, if I had to guess, that's probably what's happening. We we had the well contractor take a look at what's going on out there and he was kind of thinking the same thing is everything is working fine. There's nothing wrong with the well, but Mr. Rose is working very hard. The key is going to be we got to get we just got to get the losses now. We got to get the leaks fixed.
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Water Superintendent Saeed Rose And u just to uh follow up with the um particularly what's happening with the well Mr. Kang gave a perfect explanation. What we have to do is address the loss. Um I counted this morning just in the West Helen area. We're almost up to about 40 leaks and we've actually been working on them consistently, you know, throughout the week, every week. And so they they keep going up. And so I have a pretty aggressive plan to try to get as many of these fixed in a short period of time because what that's going to do is relieve the treatment plant, which also we're suffering loss from because we have waste valves that's actually stuck in a certain position. And so the waste valves are we're we're losing we're losing treated water. And so that's contributing to the loss as well. And so that is another thing we have to really focus on um when it comes to just what needs to be done at that treatment plant to cut down the run time and to lower the loss that we're dealing with with not only the waste valves but our influence valves as well that I mean we're constantly having to beat on to open and close and it's only a matter of time. And so um that is urgent that we have to address. Um, but in the meantime, while that is happening, it's it's getting these leaks fixed. I think when we get the plant runtime down, we're looking at about 20 hours uh a day now. And um that's way up to where it was. I mean, we were down to 12 14 hours and that was the range. And so for us to be at 20 hours is u extremely hard on a treatment plant, which is extremely hard on a well that is like Mr. Kennedy says running 24 hours a day. Okay. So that's uh that's for water. But um let's kind of shift back to the um consent orders for the DEQ. While we're finalizing um the response that's going to be made um on the DEQ, I mean, I'm sorry, on the consent order, um the priority and I just wanted to make sure that um I keep light on this is getting these bypass pumps off our pump stations. Um that's critical. Um under the consent order, we can't run bypass pumps as a temporary pumping system at all. And so, um, the first phase is actually working on our Garmin Rut pump stations, which we've talked a lot about with the Miller station, um, Midland Heights. Um, most of our stations do have the Grummer Rut pumps and actually addressing and getting those fixed first, starting with, um, pump station 3 in Midland Heights, which you all approve to for us to be able to move forward with that work, which will be getting hopefully within the next week or so. soon as parts arrive, we'll get started on that. And so soon as we get that station running, boom, that's a bypass gone. And while we're doing this, um I know Miss Mills has been um working on reaching out for wastewater funds. Um we're doing the same in office on u with a meeting we have with Communities Unlimited. Um they're going to actually help us assist with getting some funding um to actually buy parts and get things done within a 30-day period, which is immediate now. And so we'll be talking a little bit more about that soon as that is finalized and um we can move forward with that. And so that's that's a phase of u on the sewer side. Of course there's a lot of other things that need to be addressed. But um as we work on the pump stations um it's critical that um I get the flow meter calibrated which is at our treatment station. And so we have three stations um that are the old style with the Fairbank pumps that's still on the ground. And um this is going to be a big part of the re-engineering um a lot of the work that Mr. Mr. Ken has already looked into and and and started on just in the past because it's been needing to be done. Um it's just getting those states just run running until we can get them re-engineered, get them fully rehab. And so I'll be working on that along with as we're getting the Garup the let's just say above ground pumps worked on um and congruent we're going to be doing work on the treatment stations well the underground pumps as well treatment station six is our our largest capacity station. That's what pushes everything out to um the Mississippi River and we have to make sure that station is continually running. And so my goal is to u not only get the pump running, but get the flow meter calibrated and um just do what we need to do maintenance within that that actual facility. And that's going to address various things that's on that consent order. Um that along with making sure we're doing prop proper maintenance on the um lagoons as well. And so that's that's a large it's a large project, but all of this pretty much needs to happen. And my goal is to get it moving forward as we're working on getting our response ready for the consent order. And so at least we can show that, hey, not only are we trying to project a plan and get funding for this stuff, but things are actually happening. Any questions?
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Unidentified In West H, they had a fire. I think it was on second.
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Unidentified Yes. and Bowwins and the fire trucks went to hook up their hose to the fire fire plug.
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Water Superintendent Saeed Rose° They had no water. Now, how many fire plugs that we have in the city that's not usable? Well, um actually I've got an update on that today um from the fire chief because they've been helping me check the fire hydrants to see which ones are not operational and um which ones are basically not working. And it's um you provided a list of 15. It's probably a little bit more uh because it's a couple fire hydrants on the same, you know, intersection, the same street that's unoperational. So, I say about 20 fire hydrants um out of the system that needs full repair. And um some of the fire hydrants I actually just have off because they have um leaks in the base that we have to possibly replace the hydrant or replace the u auxiliary valve going to the hydrant. And so there are, you know, some that are off that doesn't need full repair, but there are some that definitely needs full repair. And um with that is basically I want to propose a plan on getting some help to come in to repair these fire hydrants. And uh one thing I was mentioning um to the fire chief is with the yes we have some fire hydrants that's not working. Um but it's some low pressure issues as well. And so with West Helener particularly while we're at a lower ro a lower raw water flow rate while the plant is running the way is running um and the leaks that we have you know soon as hip to a fire plug that's going to affect the pressure right away you know um yes we're maintaining a full tank and most of the system is is pressurized the way it needs to be but soon as you're pulling that much uh flow per second that's going to that's going to drop the uh the pressure that's in the system And so that's why it's just critical for us to get these leaks fixed because that's only going to help out and then ultimately address the waste uh the waste valves that's at the plant that's actually you know in a stuck position kind of half open and half closed which that's where we don't want it to be. What do you think by the end of November you can give us the city an update on uh a number of fire plugs that are operational?
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Water Superintendent Saeed Rose° Yeah, for sure. Um and um I I will really say that can happen before November. Uh like I said, I want to make sure um I'm addressing something. I'm updating you all on something with every meeting um if I had an opportunity to do so. And so that will definitely be a part of it. Just giving you all a full um update on all of the fire hydrants and actually I can provide a map of just, you know, just something that can be shared in a packet of, you know, what fires we don't have working, what fire hydrants are working. So you can just kind of see visually where we have to get work done.
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Unidentified Be fine.
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Unidentified How do you how do you keep track of like all of the leaks that need to be fixed? Like is there y'all register? Y have a
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Water Superintendent Saeed Rose Yeah, if we have a work order system and basically the work order system, I mean it's not it has its flaws. Uh but the goal is to uh make sure that long as my field staff and the office is communicating, we're covering everything that's happening because a lot of things come to the field staff faster than to the office. And so we're just trying to get work done. We're not necessarily getting the work orders made. But often we just backtrack and make sure whatever we're getting fixed, there is a work order on it. So it is, you know, actually logged into a system. Do y'all still maintain a Do you still maintain a a leak list of areas that are leaking?
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Unidentified Oh, for sure. Yeah, that's um And now
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Unidentified I haven't seen anything lately on
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Water Superintendent Saeed Rose Right. Okay. Yeah. And I um and I have a electronic list that I use myself that I haven't necessarily just shared. Uh but I can always share it. Um but it's it's a it's a evolving list. It's constantly going up, constantly going down. Yeah. We're getting so many leaks fixed. But, uh, but like like I said, that's something else I can provide at a meeting that's kind of, you know, when I'm talking about the distribution system, I can show, hey, these are what leaks we have, um, and these are what leaks have been fixed. And so, that's what I try to actually provide in a weekly report. But, uh, but like I say, that's that's, you know, something I can actually share during an update.
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Unidentified Any more questions?
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Water Superintendent Saeed Rose Okay. I wanted to uh I wanted to share this is something that is um is happening right now with um a few utility bills that I'm hearing about are coming with very high usage. I mean irregular usage. And so I just want folks to know do not be alarmed. Just contact me, contact the office, just let us know and we're going to look into what's happening. And possibly um I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I'm noticing that um it could just be meter readings inter incorrectly uh which is causing the usage to double to be high and so just don't panic. Let us know and we'll address it and get it worked out. Okay.
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Unidentified Okay. You all have Oh, yes ma'am.
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Unidentified John A spoke of the written report that was due monthly. You said the written
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Unidentified the quarter.
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Water Superintendent Saeed Rose Yeah, the quarterly report. Um I I spoke on that. That is definitely um what I was mentioning about the um the water consent order is that quarterly report is submitted. I can also share that um because I I just got it off but I can share it with the mayor and the council so you can see that report and we'll have to do the same for the uh DEEQ consent order as well. But we need to get that ball rolling, you know, just on making sure we get a response ready. And then pretty much everything I just spoke on tonight on the wastewater side will be in that quarterly report so that can be shared as well.
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Unidentified Is that the same report that needs to be signed and daily? No.
59:54
Unidentified Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
59:56
Unidentified We just want to make sure it's taken care of.
59:58
Unidentified Okay. That's for sure. For sure.
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Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly All right. Any other questions? No other questions. Thank you, Mr. Rose. Um if if you if your ears caught that we have problems from production to distribution and the thing that's going to save us is the closing on that loan and that's why we're trying to sprint towards that event. Um that's where all our help is going to come from. And I want y'all to know that on your agenda you have water update and you have finance update. Those are going to be regular items on the agendas from from here on in the foreseeable future. Uh we'll have either if Mr. Rose is available, we'll have him to come. If he's not, perhaps if we need the engineer here, we'll have him to come. Or if it's just me, we'll give you try to give you some form of update, but there's a lot going on in water right now. Not just water, water and waste water. Yeah. So, we'll try to have something for you each meeting. Uh but it will appear even if there's turns out we don't have anything, it will appear on each agenda. Um one last tidbit on water. um when we built the last well, we we exhausted all of our reserves. And so, uh one of my my plans is to start trying to replenish those reserves. And so, this month, uh we're going to start going about the business of trying to replenish those reserve. And so, uh I don't know to what level at this point, but we are able to start replenishing those reserves. And we're going to start trying to do that on a regular basis so that we have uh try to rebuild them. It's going to take a long time to get them completely restored, but we will start that process this month. Ney questions. Next item on the agenda is the finance update. Uh Mr. St. Columbia had requested an updated list of uh the debt that the city has. Miss Ramsey is still working on that list, so it's not yet prepared. Uh but just as soon as we get it, we'll share with you and all of the council and let you know kind of where we are in terms of what our debt consists of at this point. Um I don't know what's going to be on that list at this point. Uh Miss Ramsey a couple weeks ago told me on the way out on Friday, I'm about to load you up with emails. And she does that on the weekend and I just get a list of bills and items. And so I don't know what the totals are at this point, but she's going to work on that list and get it compiled. I will tell you that if you go back to your February list, there are a couple of things that we've been able to to make payment on. Uh we got current with April. Uh we had uh big truck rental I think showed $133,000. If I'm not mistaken, that's down to $13,000. Uh we got that down to 13,000. We have um what's another one? Uh the the 90,000 on the side loaders. Uh we also have uh the body cams for the police department. Uh that was 101. We've gotten it down to I think 70 at this point. So we're we're making some progress. Liy is going to be up, but we think we may be in a position to try to work out a payment plan with Lafy. Uh Lafi discouraged us from trying to work out a payment plan if we couldn't actually stick to it, but we think we're in a position now to be able to do that. So we're going to be exploring that in the next few weeks or so to try to to try to tackle that. Um, but you'll get the list together and so you can be able to you'll be able to compare them and see some some items might be up, some items might be down. And I would say this on our debt, progress will not be a straight line down. It won't be, but we want it to trend down over time. And we think that's what it's doing. We'll get the documentation to back that up and it'll show one way or another. The math will be up or down, but it won't be a straight line, but we want it to trend downward. And so we're trying to to tackle some of these debts. Uh there's one that's on your old list that the city attorney is going to look at and may not end up being a debt. I don't want to call them out. May not be a debt at all at the end of this, but it's fairly large. So uh a lot of things going on with the debt, but we'll finance update will be on the agendas going forward for each and every meeting so that we can talk about these things. Are there any questions on finance? Next item on the agenda, I believe the chief is here, Chief Sanders. Uh the police department pursuit policy is in your packet and chief would you come forward and
1:04:16
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly° I know they've read it already, but do you have any presentation that you'd like to make about this?
1:04:22
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders I don't really have a presentation. I emailed it to y'all maybe a month ago, but this this just plays into my vision. Uh I'm more aggressive. This is part of my plan. Um, hoping you guys pass this mountain.
1:04:48
Unidentified There's any questions you can ask?
1:04:50
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders I, you know, I've I've worked this myself a little bit, but I'm just curious and for the public because I don't know if everybody has seen it. So give us a little bit of your vision and why you felt this was necessary to to I'm just we just the police department has a trend. Uh well I wouldn't even say a trend. It's just we've been so reactive. Um, I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with the old pursuit policy, but it says only violent felonies that we can pursue. And in my vision, if you're running, if you're fleeing, you're fleeing for something. Again, uh, I'm not I'm here to tackle crime. I'm here to get the crime rate down. the beginning of the year, the governor passed the act that fleeing in any motorized vehicle is a felony.
1:05:51
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders I'm just trying to update the policy so we can do what we got to do.
1:05:55
Unidentified I'm aggressive. I want I want to get out here. I don't want to put the bad guys behind bars. Can can you give us a a a list each month on showing how uh if we're going up or down in robberies and traffic stops or you know the activities of the police department. Yes. It was a monthly breakdown as to breakins uh you know if it's up or down and gang related incidents and things of that nature.
1:06:38
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders Yes, I can I can I I condens a report for you.
1:06:40
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders You know it doesn't have to be elaborate but showing some numbers to see how the trend is going. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I can give you a few of them because I I pay attention to them weekly. Since June 6 when I took office, there's been over 450 traffic stops. From January 1 to June 6, it might have been 100. So, we're making more contacts in the community. Um, I checked Monday. I worked a little bit yesterday. We were I believe it was 14% the crime rate was down 14% from this time last year.
1:07:23
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders So I compare from the time from last year and that's how I usually do it. But I can definitely condense a report every month for you guys.
1:07:32
Unidentified In my neighborhood occasionally like the other morning I got up early. I can hear gunshots, you know, gunshots in the city. Sound travels, you know, uh, and we're getting a lot of that.
1:07:53
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders° It fluctuates. I'll say it fluctuates. Some weeks are better than others. Um, we encourage the public to call. Sometimes we don't even get the calls. I'm increasing manpower. So we we usually in the area in some area where it's happening, but we can't be everywhere at once and encourage someone to call, including yourself. And so all of your officers have read this policy and many are fully aware of their responsibility as it relates to this policy, right?
1:08:35
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders° Yes, ma'am.
1:08:40
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders They'll do that once it's passed. I still have them acting under the old pursuit policies.
1:08:50
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° This city attorney wants to address one issue in pursuit. Mr. V.
1:08:55
City Attorney Andre Valley And speaking of T, I thought we were going to move J. It's still been here. Uh, the city has a history of two separate lawsuits. One, the west owner was officer pursuing someone resulted in the death of that person and the second pursuing to Mississippi when it was this both of consolidation. City of Helen was involved city west on and later was severely injured in in Tuna, Mississippi. Uh and paragraph J uh m leave doesn't cover any any uh action beyond u state of Arkansas borders. So paragraph J we shouldn't authorize pursuit into Mississippi. Um because it's not going to be covered by by misbelief or any of that. Um and you may just have to turn them over to that to that agency. But that's the only paragraph I remember that we needed to take out. So would that mean that if So would that mean that so that means that if they if they caught that if they caught that person pulled them over right there at the bridge, they couldn't arrest him?
1:10:19
City Attorney Andre Valley° No. No, no. If they're engaged in a hospital pursuit, what what they should do is contact another agencies to to assist in it.
1:10:24
Unidentified Yeah.
1:10:25
City Attorney Andre Valley° U one of the issues, let me be clear. There are two things to be concerned about. One is the type of incident it is.
1:10:34
Unidentified Okay.
1:10:40
City Attorney Andre Valley and officer gets behind them and they keep going. Uh to be be specific, we had an officer uh Mary Lustner. She did a high speed chase was she turned around what used to be KCT. She turned around and and came up and she struck someone right where the boys and girls club is and they were killed. We had another that was a high-speed chase for somebody that was a nonviolent nonfelon fence and west started the chase went through West Her went to Helena when we before we consolidated and they ended up all the way up the intersection where Grand Casino is and had a wreck and and the lady named Kim Lar Rosa was seriously injured.
1:11:17
City Attorney Andre Valley Uh they sued city held city west before consolidation and the case went through consolidation. It was dismissed uh primarily because of Hurricane Katrina. After Hurricane Katrina that no one found Kimmel Laar Rosa or the lawyer and so the case end up being dismissed and so we were sued in Mississippi and if something happens in Mississippi, we'll be sued there. He wouldn't be sued in state Arkansas and M. Lee does not provide any coverage beyond our borders, state borders. And so the issue would be contacting the other agency and coordinating with them for them to be the people to go forward. And if you know they're going across the border, that's issue. Uh in some limited cases going beyond the law in Mississippi does allow you to go, but the thing about it is at some point you got to coordinate with another agency for that agency to consider the pursuit, continue the pursuit, turn it over. And again, the issue is what is the level of offense that they've committed? And that's that's part of the determination we have to make what is the level of offense they committed
1:12:21
City Attorney Andre Valley because yes if they're armed robber if they doing something like that we may continue going forward. Uh but if it's just a traffic citation they they're fleeing because highspeed chases put everybody at risk. Um, and that's why the law was changed in Arkansas to make it a felony because highk chases cause everybody that's on the road to be at risk and people who have bench sworn many time are just fleeing or they trying to get rid of the drugs or trying to do things like that. They have no regard for anybody on the road and so they create very dangerous situation where people could be seriously injured.
1:12:57
Unidentified Yeah.
1:12:58
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° So that's why we need to narrow tailor narrowly tailor our policy. I would say the most important thing I heard the chief wants to be a says the law allows him to chase him and to to continue the pursuit and the city attorney says municipal league won't cover it. We don't have a whole lot of money right now.
1:13:17
Unidentified What about Mississippi?
1:13:18
Unidentified No, Mississippi. That's what I'm saying.
1:13:20
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Right.
1:13:30
Unidentified Okay. What? What else?
1:13:31
Unidentified Say once they get across the bridge, should you call somebody to come and get them?
1:13:35
City Attorney Andre Valley° That's That's only paragraph J. That's So
1:13:37
Unidentified So we could adopt everything else except
1:13:40
Unidentified Yes. Yes.
1:13:41
Unidentified Okay.
1:13:42
Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1) Well, I'd like to make a motion that we adopt everything except for paragraph
1:13:48
Unidentified J.
1:13:50
Unidentified Can I say something for y'all? Adopt.
1:13:52
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Yes. Can we do maybe something like the violent felonies we keep pursuing? I mean, some people just deserve I don't say deserve, but they earned the right to go to jail. I say again in my my beginning when I took office, I my approach is aggressive. I understand the financial state that we're in, but it's not in my vision just to let everybody go. I understand what you all are saying just hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on. A motion was made to adopt with everything except Jay. Is there a second?
1:14:34
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Okay. So, motion fails. I'm sorry. Continue.
1:14:39
City Attorney Andre Valley° You're not letting them go. You're still coordinating with the other agents. They become the primary person to take the during the pursuit. One of one of the issues that you still you still would have now, if it's a violent offense, you may have discretion on that. If it's a murder, you're pursuing them.
1:14:56
Unidentified That's what I'm asking. You're violent. Violent felony.
1:14:59
Unidentified Yeah, but currently the way it's written.
1:15:06
Unidentified Oh,
1:15:07
Unidentified you're saying by days, you won't have it.
1:15:10
Unidentified I won't have it at all. That's correct.
1:15:12
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Okay. Well, well, let's let's consult with the Mr. Lee to amend J.
1:15:18
Unidentified Okay.
1:15:27
Unidentified So you'll have some policy in place and then we can always come back and amend it to address J.
1:15:32
Unidentified That'll work.
1:15:39
Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1) Oh. Um, well, I'd like to go ahead and adopt make a motion that we adopt uh the new pursuant policy uh in all of the areas except for paragraph J.
1:15:55
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Okay. Motion by Miss Miller to adopt the pursuit policy excluding paragraph J. Is there a second?
1:16:03
Councilwoman Monica Davis (Ward 3) Second.
1:16:04
Unidentified Is this what you're proposing here?
1:16:08
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Yes. That's the pursuit. Uh there's a second by Miss Davis. Any discussion
1:16:16
Unidentified and that is the pursuit policy that you have in your hand.
1:16:19
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Oh, any additional discussion?
1:16:22
Unidentified Yeah, the motion doesn't quite say that. So, but but it's understood that y'all going to check on Jay and see,
1:16:28
Unidentified right? The motion just says that we adopt the reception as J. And what I said from a practical standpoint, we would get the necessary language from Mr. League and then bring back an amended one that addresses Jay.
1:16:39
Unidentified Yes, sir.
1:16:40
Unidentified We can amend the policy to add.
1:16:41
Unidentified Can we put that in the motion?
1:16:43
Unidentified That's fine.
1:16:44
Unidentified Can we amend that? Do you want amended to include that?
1:16:46
Unidentified Be amended to include that.
1:16:48
Unidentified Yes, I'd like to amend it to include that we
1:16:52
Unidentified we will have J review by the Mig and we would get a language to to do an amended one.
1:16:58
Unidentified Okay. Miss Davis, you second the original motion. Do you second that amended the motion?
1:17:05
Unidentified Any other discussion?
1:17:07
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Madam clerk, would you call the open?
1:17:10
Roll call Roll-call vote — Adrian Messina: yes; Dr. Kyle Miller: yes; Joe St. Columbia: yes; Monica Davis: yes.
1:17:20
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Guys, let me tell you a story about Chief Sanders. Um, we had the shooting uh several weeks ago that involved the the two people in the minor. And um, I I woke up on Monday morning determined that I was going to go over there and tell him that he needed to get somebody on the line like state police or whatever to come in and assist us. And so I walked in and I walked into his office and he's on the phone with the state police. And so I want you to know that he's he's really um taking charge of and doing some things that are positive. And so he he recognized that we needed some additional help and and they've led to it led him to a suspect. So
1:18:00
Police Chief Quanderius Sanders thank you all for supporting my vision.
1:18:01
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Give him his boy. Um, next item on the agenda is under new business. It's the West Street drainage project. And I sent you some pictures of this and I hope you had a chance to look at them. Um, let me explain what this is. This is one of those things that we stumbled up or I stumbled upon within the last uh two to three weeks. the West Street drainage project, the Metalbrook Apartments. Uh I'm not housing and apartments. It's a it's a subdivision off of West Street and West Helena. Um it has four streets. It has a north, south, east, well I'm sorry, three streets, north, south, and east Melbrook. Um I took a picture and included in your packet. And what that is is that's a picture of East Mebrook looking north. When it rains, the street floods. And let me be clear about what I said. When it rains, the street floods. When it pours, the streets floods even more. And when it flash floods, they can't go home on that street. Uh they have to park at the mailboxes at the entrance because of the flooding. This subdivision was um constructed, I think 2011, 2012,
1:19:35
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° but the drainage was awful uh upon its opening. Yeah.
1:19:39
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) And they just expanded. Uh they built some more houses over there and they have some uh some duplexes that they built on the West Street side. And so what they did what they did after constructing the new housing was they they they tried to remedy the flooding for the people who live on the east and north side of of Mebrook. And they dug this trench that goes from this street, East Metobrook. It goes through this field that leads to West Street. They they installed a cover that goes under West Street and comes out on the other side in a ditch. The ditch is overgrown. Uh they had some help with our water department and moving some water lines and then they they installed another co at the intersection of uh Chicago and West. They had some discussions with the previous administration about the city completing the work on the ditch on the opposite side of West Street. Well, they've done their part, but it won't work if the city doesn't do its part. And so what I'm asking you to do, there's about 400 feet from uh the covert on West Street to Chicago Street. And then they say um they had an engineer and some and a contractor who came in and did their work and did the trench. It's 400 feet from the cover to Chicago street. And then they say we need to go down a thousand feet on the other side of Chicago, which would be south on West Street to make the drainage work right where the people don't get flooded out and it flows completely out down the ditch in West Street. The ditch is overgrown and so we're going to need somebody to dig that ditch and clean out the drainage there so that it works properly. um I have an idea of what the cost might be and so I spoke to Miss Ramsey about it and asked her if this is something that we would be able to do not immediately but within the next 60 days and she said yes we can but uh it's above my spending authority and above the bidding requirements and so what I'm asking you to do is approve bidding out of the project so that we can get someone to dig that ditch out. Um if we don't the work that they've done is going to be lost. So
1:22:14
Unidentified what do we cost? What's the total bottom line?
1:22:19
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° If I tell you everybody will know what the bid on.
1:22:21
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Oh, I see. But I'll bring it back before we accept anything. I mean, I'll let you know on the front end what the what the bids are. Say before we accept it. So I'm telling you, I won't accept it. I won't commit us to spend any money without you knowing about it. No.
1:22:36
Unidentified But it's it's M. Ramsey said it's within our ability to to think
1:22:42
Unidentified for the public sake his spending limit is 5,000 bidding limit is 7500. So it's above both of those.
1:22:47
Unidentified Okay.
1:22:48
Unidentified So you're going to do informal bids where you going to get quotes from different people and
1:22:52
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Yeah. And then we'll bring it back and let you take a look at it and let you decide what you want to do on if you want to actually do it or not.
1:22:58
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° Okay. And I'll tell you it's it's doable but I don't want to tell everybody what to do on it. Somebody might come in lower.
1:23:04
Unidentified That's right.
1:23:05
Unidentified Yeah. So you just need a motion.
1:23:09
Unidentified Yes.
1:23:11
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3)° And and for the council sake, part of the issue is when they were building the project, now code enforcement answer directly to the mayor's office. When I talked to code enforcement about the issue them building said that we need to address drainage that they didn't address before they came down and engineers and builders, they all came and talked to me because they said when they built in 2011, they did do a brain plan. they did do something for the city and the city didn't do it part and so as part of this what they're saying is that we're again trying to do it but we need the city to do his part to relieve the drainage so they hired engineers and all that to try to address uh the concerns that our directors code for mature and the mayor and code for met about and then they went and met with them to try to get it get it resolved
1:23:59
Unidentified and so these are the proposals that the engineer presented to the mayor's office that Mayor Franklin and code enforcement uh went through.
1:24:18
Unidentified You need a motion.
1:24:20
Councilman Dr. Kyle Miller (Ward 1)° I I make that motion.
1:24:22
Unidentified Okay.
1:24:24
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Motion by Miller to approve bids on the West Street drainage project. And was there a second?
1:24:30
Roll call Roll-call vote — Adrian Messina: yes; Maxine Miller: yes; Joe St. Columbia: yes; Dr. Kyle Miller: yes.
1:24:49
Unidentified Yep.
1:25:02
Unidentified I move we journ now
1:25:04
Unidentified just second m streets
1:25:11
Unidentified what
1:25:14
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Mr. Valley is telling me about a special use permit that we need. Is this something you want to specify?
1:25:20
City Attorney Andre Valley Yes, you had a public hearing at 5:30. Planning Commission did relating to previously if you all reszone property on Sam Street and you had another petition that was asking for a special use permit to build a a a center right there across from West Side School and they did petitions all over neighborhood. Basically everybody signed a position except for two people that resided over their property owners and we had a public hearing was only four people attended the public hearing and Muster and Mrs. Banks were asking that you approve the special use permit. The core court has already approved the special use permit for for the building to be located there. You resone the building but then because of the nature of the building it needs a special use permit approved by the city council. Ling commission approved it. They had a public hearing. No one appeared to object and they just asking that city council approve the special permit so they can go forward with trying to build a building.
1:26:19
Unidentified Is there any I mean do they need it like right now or is that something because I I'm not sure I understand exactly. So give me a little bit more information.
1:26:28
City Attorney Andre Valley° Okay. M Victor Jordan came Victor Jordan came and he talked he talked on behalf of two groups. He talked about building a prospect for himself his business.
1:26:37
City Attorney Andre Valley° Yes. Yes, they also talked about a a a food center, I think it is, that's on Sam Street. Um, and u first it had to be reszoned.
1:26:49
Unidentified And you all approved to reszone.
1:26:51
Unidentified Mhm.
1:27:21
City Attorney Andre Valley° and u no one objected to it and so they would ask the city council they would they would simply approve it at this point.
1:27:28
Unidentified Okay. So the planning commission approved it. The the
1:27:32
Unidentified the public hearing no one objective. Okay. And then the you said the qu court approved.
1:27:38
City Attorney Andre Valley No, no, not qu court. They're just waiting on this body now. It's now before this body. But this body to to approve this special use permit. If you all want to table till the 16th. We'll just tell it's table to the 16th. But uh it's already gone through. She's gone through twice cuz first she went through reszoning. Then she coming back for special use permit. That was um
1:27:58
Unidentified how did we um
1:28:01
Unidentified approve the special use permit? special use permit.
1:28:05
Unidentified And this is going to be across from West Side.
1:28:08
City Attorney Andre Valley° Yes, it's on Sam. It faces West Side.
1:28:13
Unidentified I'm just trying to picture where it is.
1:28:15
Unidentified She owns like I think three or four lots right there. Uh between Russell and Park.
1:28:22
Unidentified Okay.
1:28:23
Unidentified Face the back of the old cafeteria.
1:28:25
Unidentified Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Right. Gotcha.
1:28:28
Unidentified Was that a motion?
1:28:29
Unidentified Yes, she moved.
1:28:30
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Okay. Sorry. Motion by Miss Davis to approve the special use permit. Is there a s?
1:28:37
Councilwoman Maxine Miller (Ward 1) Yes. Second.
1:28:39
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) Second by Miss Miller. Is there any discussion?
1:28:43
Roll call Roll-call vote — Dr. Kyle Miller: yes; Joe St. Columbia: yes; Adrian Messina: yes.
1:28:56
Mayor Pro Tem Don Etherly (Ward 3) motion passes. Motion to adjurnn. All in favor say I. Uh any opposed? No opposed. No extension. See you on September 16th. Let something happen. Amen.

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